mawaw1992
Machine: Resmed AirCurve 10 VAuto Other Comments: Sex: Male
Posts: 199
Threads: 26
Joined: Dec 2020
Mask Type: Hybrid
Mask Make & Model: Resmed N30i
Humidifier: Resmed
CPAP Pressure: 11-15
CPAP Software: OSCAR
Location: Mississippi
#1
08-05-2023, 05:23 PM
APAP vs. CPAP - Which One
I am using a Dreamstation 2 APAP which I seem to be having alot of CA's, OA's and Hypopneas. No matter where I set the pressures and Flex, I still keep having apneas. I remember a sleep tech once telling me that he did not like the apap machines because they seem to struggle finding the right pressure and in most cases would under or over compensatean apnea event. Should I try switching it to CPAP with 1 pressure setting to see if that works?
Thanks,
Mark
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staceyburke
Machine: Resmed AirCurve VAUTO Other Comments: O2 and pulse CMS 50F Sex: Male
Posts: 3,644
Threads: 15
Joined: Jun 2020
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: ResMed f30 & f30i
Humidifier: ResMed
CPAP Pressure: PS 5.6 over 6.2-19
CPAP Software: OSCARmyAir
Location: colorado usa
#2
08-05-2023, 06:02 PM
RE: APAP vs. CPAP - Which One
You want an apap machine you can change it to a cpap by just setting the min and max the same.
I would get a ResMed autoset 10 or 11. 90% of the people on this site use Resmed.
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mawaw1992
Machine: Resmed AirCurve 10 VAuto Other Comments: Sex: Male
Posts: 199
Threads: 26
Joined: Dec 2020
Mask Type: Hybrid
Mask Make & Model: Resmed N30i
Humidifier: Resmed
CPAP Pressure: 11-15
CPAP Software: OSCAR
Location: Mississippi
#3
08-05-2023, 06:18 PM
RE: APAP vs. CPAP - Which One
I have a Resmed Aircurve 10 VAuto that does a great job treating my apneas butI had to send it in for repair. So for the time being I am having to use my Dreamstation 2 as a backup. So on the Dreamstation 2 APAP,can I set the minimum and maximum pressure to the same amount and use it as a CPAP? If so, would I still use the Flex setting?
Thanks,
Mark
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Crimson Nape
Wiki Editor Machine: AirCurve 10 Vauto Other Comments: OSCAR Team Member Sex: Male
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Location: Georgia - U.S.A.
#4
08-05-2023, 06:30 PM
RE: APAP vs. CPAP - Which One
Using Flex with a static pressure setting should still allow for a bi-level pressure difference.
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Sleepster
Wiki Editor Machine: ResMed A10 VAuto Other Comments: Diagnosed 2011. Conquered aerophagia. Sex: Male
Posts: 6,955
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Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
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Location: Houston, Texas
#5
08-05-2023, 08:50 PM
RE: APAP vs. CPAP - Which One
(08-05-2023, 05:23 PM)mawaw1992 Wrote: I am using a Dreamstation 2 APAP which I seem to be having alot of CA's, OA's and Hypopneas. No matter where I set the pressures and Flex, I still keep having apneas.
We would need to see the OSCAR charts so people can see the specific issues.
Quote:I remember a sleep tech once telling me that he did not like the apap machines because they seem to struggle finding the right pressure and in most cases would under or over compensatean apnea event.
That's not an issue if you're using OSCAR to monitor your therapy.
Quote:Should I try switching it to CPAP with 1 pressure setting to see if that works?
You could try it and see how it works.
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mawaw1992
Machine: Resmed AirCurve 10 VAuto Other Comments: Sex: Male
Posts: 199
Threads: 26
Joined: Dec 2020
Mask Type: Hybrid
Mask Make & Model: Resmed N30i
Humidifier: Resmed
CPAP Pressure: 11-15
CPAP Software: OSCAR
Location: Mississippi
#6
08-06-2023, 07:50 AM
RE: APAP vs. CPAP - Which One
Here are some screenshots of the problem I am having with apneas, many of them are in clusters. I use a mouth strip and chinstrap to reduce mouth breathing and a soft cervical collar to reduce positional apneas.I have made several pressure adjustments myself but nothing seems to behelping the problem. Please take a look at them and see what adjustments I could make to bring my AHI down. Back before I switched to the Resmed I was using a Dreamstation 1 APAP machinethat I never could get my AHI down low. If I was to trythe DS2 in CPAP mode, what pressure would I need to set it at?
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Mark
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Sleepster
Wiki Editor Machine: ResMed A10 VAuto Other Comments: Diagnosed 2011. Conquered aerophagia. Sex: Male
Posts: 6,955
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CPAP Software: OSCARmyAir
Location: Houston, Texas
#7
08-06-2023, 08:59 AM
RE: APAP vs. CPAP - Which One
You are leaking a lot. You can try a chin strap or soft cervical collar, but a full face mask is the best fix.
Until you get those leaks under control the AHI reported by the machine is meaningless.
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mawaw1992
Machine: Resmed AirCurve 10 VAuto Other Comments: Sex: Male
Posts: 199
Threads: 26
Joined: Dec 2020
Mask Type: Hybrid
Mask Make & Model: Resmed N30i
Humidifier: Resmed
CPAP Pressure: 11-15
CPAP Software: OSCAR
Location: Mississippi
#8
08-06-2023, 11:56 AM
RE: APAP vs. CPAP - Which One
I am using a chinstrap with mouth strip to help with my mouth leakageand a soft cervical collar to help with positional apneas. I have tried many full face mask in the past but because my face has anarrowelongated shaped, they all would leak really bad. I presently use the Resmed N30i mask and when laying awake in bed I never hear it leaking, so the leaks are either out my mouth or when I am changing positions while I am sleeping.
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Mark
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mawaw1992
Machine: Resmed AirCurve 10 VAuto Other Comments: Sex: Male
Posts: 199
Threads: 26
Joined: Dec 2020
Mask Type: Hybrid
Mask Make & Model: Resmed N30i
Humidifier: Resmed
CPAP Pressure: 11-15
CPAP Software: OSCAR
Location: Mississippi
#9
08-06-2023, 12:02 PM
RE: APAP vs. CPAP - Which One
Here is a chart of the last few nights on my Resmed before sending itin for repair tocompare to the nights on the Dreamstation.
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Mark
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staceyburke
Machine: Resmed AirCurve VAUTO Other Comments: O2 and pulse CMS 50F Sex: Male
Posts: 3,644
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Joined: Jun 2020
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: ResMed f30 & f30i
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CPAP Pressure: PS 5.6 over 6.2-19
CPAP Software: OSCARmyAir
Location: colorado usa
#10
08-06-2023, 12:40 PM
RE: APAP vs. CPAP - Which One
The teamed has a better program and usually has less events. As noted by everyone your large leaks are a problem you need to keep working on.
Your dream station will not be able to get tha AHI as low as the resmed
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